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Time to move on...[change]

Hi all! I'm not sure anyone here will even read it, however, after being kind of around for many years, I think it's just fair to leave a comment here before moving on. In fact, I've been pretty much inactive for a long period of time and haven't been involved here with anything. My activity was only rather sporadic, so I assume no one will really miss me here anyway. So I decided to officially move on, meaning to retire here from my advanced permissions I hold. It doesn't mean that I'm then gone entirely. I'm still a steward and so I'll still be able to help as needed. However, I see no real reason to keep rights I rarely ever use. Due to the number of other rights I hold and all things I do here, I simply don't have the time to be of any use for this very project. I don't like people holding rights for no real reason and so I should go ahead and remove my permissions. I will wait for a few days before doing so, maybe someone needs some assistance I can easier give with local rights. Just ping me! -Barras talk 15:24, 10 October 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for all the work that you have done! With your departure, we will only be left with one bureaucrat, so granting bot flags will probably be different now. Perhaps we can reconsider the policy of granting bot flags? --Hydriz (talk) 07:40, 11 October 2015 (UTC)
You could just apply for crat flag :) Or want me to nominate you (well, then it would be odd for me to close the request, but meh). I've no rush and can wait... -Barras talk 09:12, 11 October 2015 (UTC)
All the best!--Brett (talk) 11:09, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
  • I've removed my admin rights locally and then the crat rights via meta. However, as steward I can (if needed) still delete and block here and pretty much do whatever needs to be done. So if help is needed, let me know! -Barras talk 10:32, 16 October 2015 (UTC)

Question from inexperienced Wiktionarian[change]

I just added a family of pages around "demote" and "demotion".

  1. Did I do this correctly?
  2. Is there a bot that finds iw links?

Thanks. StevenJ81 (talk) 14:14, 26 October 2015 (UTC)

These are excellent both in content and format. Thank you! The way you handeled antonyms in promotion is preferred over the way you did in demote.--Brett (talk) 20:35, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
Thank you. Now fixed. (I discovered {{antonyms}} somewhere in midstream. In demote I copied what I had seen in promote. Both of those are now updated.) StevenJ81 (talk) 22:45, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
For number 2, yes. HydrizBot and a few other bots are in charge of maintaining interwiki links. --Hydriz (talk) 01:04, 27 October 2015 (UTC)


Simple Wiktionary logo.svg

I wonder if we should use the version at right as the logo in the upper left corner, in place of the current one. Nothing in the current one identifies this as Simple Wiktionary. (I didn't create this; I found it at Commons.) StevenJ81 (talk) 15:12, 29 October 2015 (UTC)

Nice find. We'll see what others say.--Brett (talk) 19:32, 29 October 2015 (UTC)
I created that version, but if you look at the original discussion and on Phabricator, we were informed that the language name is not supposed to be included in the logo. Of course, we can always change that ruling here (since over on Wikipedia they violate this rule). --Hydriz (talk) 02:32, 30 October 2015 (UTC)
Well, there is one critical difference between Simple English and every other "language". In all other cases, as long as there are words in the logo (as opposed to graphics only), one can tell what language one is using simply by reading the text (project name, tag line, whatever). Here, there is no way to distinguish from English in that manner. As you noted, Simple English Wikipedia identifies itself in its logo, and has for years. In the unique case of Simple English this makes sense. I think we should do that here, too. StevenJ81 (talk) 14:19, 30 October 2015 (UTC)
Shall we make a decision? StevenJ81 (talk) 16:15, 3 November 2015 (UTC)
I am neutral on this matter, so I rather gather the opinion of other people as well. I agree with your point on differentiating between the two language editions, but I don't exactly feel that we should change the project logo for that. I don't have a strong argument on this one so I am open to suggestions. --Hydriz (talk) 04:19, 4 November 2015 (UTC)
I like the one Hydriz made, for what that's worth.--Brett (talk) 11:18, 4 November 2015 (UTC)
Well, if we use the one you made that's pictured just above, we're not changing the logo much, after all. We're just changing it enough to clarify the differentiation from English Wiktionary. So that's how I'd go. StevenJ81 (talk) 15:53, 4 November 2015 (UTC)
  • I personally like the one mentioning the language version and support the change. We can always say we didn't know better and there are surely more violations than this one. ;) -Barras talk 16:27, 4 November 2015 (UTC)
    I kind of liked the old (as in, from several years ago) logo with the Scrabble tiles and the text "Simple English Wiktionary". The current logo looks too different from the other WMF logos to be a nice fit ... Tempodivalse [talk] 00:03, 5 November 2015 (UTC)
    I'll take that comment as favoring the identification of "Simple English Wiktionary". As to which of the two to use, I rather like the one Tempodivalse described myself. But I don't mind this project having a unique look, and don't feel strongly about that part. I do strongly want the identification of "Simple English", though. StevenJ81 (talk) 14:46, 5 November 2015 (UTC)
    I really liked the old "Scrabble" logo too, but I'm fine with the new one with "Simple English" if the community feels like this project needs a distinct, recognizable logo. PiRSquared17 (talk) 03:51, 11 November 2015 (UTC)

Encouraging a conclusion[change]

Do we have a consensus here? StevenJ81 (talk) 15:19, 18 November 2015 (UTC)

Community Wishlist Survey[change]

Community Tech Team via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 21:57, 9 November 2015 (UTC)

Wikimania 2016 scholarships ambassadors needed[change]

Hello! Wikimania 2016 scholarships will soon be open; by the end of the week we'll form the committee and we need your help, see Scholarship committee for details.

If you want to carefully review nearly a thousand applications in January, you might be a perfect committee member. Otherwise, you can volunteer as "ambassador": you will observe all the committee activities, ensure that people from your language or project manage to apply for a scholarship, translate scholarship applications written in your language to English and so on. Ambassadors are allowed to ask for a scholarship, unlike committee members.

Wikimania 2016 scholarships subteam 10:47, 10 November 2015 (UTC)

Harassment consultation[change]

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Your input requested on the proposed #FreeBassel banner campaign[change]

This is a message regarding the proposed 2015 Free Bassel banner. Translations are available.

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This is to inform all Wikimedia contributors that a straw poll seeking your involvement has just been started on Meta-Wiki.

As some of your might be aware, a small group of Wikimedia volunteers have proposed a banner campaign informing Wikipedia readers about the urgent situation of our fellow Wikipedian, open source software developer and Creative Commons activist, Bassel Khartabil. An exemplary banner and an explanatory page have now been prepared, and translated into about half a dozen languages by volunteer translators.

We are seeking your involvement to decide if the global Wikimedia community approves starting a banner campaign asking Wikipedia readers to call on the Syrian government to release Bassel from prison. We understand that a campaign like this would be unprecedented in Wikipedia's history, which is why we're seeking the widest possible consensus among the community.

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