Wiktionary:Simple talk/Archive 26

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Simple English wikis: the als.wiki solution[change]

This is the only Simple English WMF project remaining, other than simple.wiki. The Simple Wikibooks and Simple Wikiquote were closed for the same spurious so-called "reasons" (read: excuses) used multiple times by people trying (and failing) to get the Simple Wikipedia and Simple Wiktionary closed. There is an unofficial Simple English Wikinews, but that's stuck on Wikia (IncubatorPlus). There is also a proposal on Meta for a Simple Wikiversity, but anti-Simple-English Wikimedians are spamming "oppose" !votes. wikipedia:als: (soon to be renamed gsw.wiki) moved all of their sister projects to namespaces on the Wikipedia site around 2007, and now has almost the full suite of sister projects (except for Wikiversity) intregated into one wiki. This should be done with simple.wikipedia; simplified versions of the English Wikipedia, Wiktionary, Wikibooks, Wikiquote, Wikinews, and Wikiversity all on one MediaWiki installation. KATMAKROFAN (talk) 02:58, 23 September 2017 (UTC)

KATMAKROFAN: Interesting idea. Might you be able to re-post this to the Simple English Wikipedia's Simple Talk? Here, the discussion can't gain much consensus. Thanks, Zhangj1079 (talk) 22:40, 18 October 2017 (UTC)
@KATMAKROFAN: I didn't see you bring it up at w:simple:Wikipedia:Simple talk--was that deliberate or an oversite? —Justin (koavf)TCM☯ 21:51, 13 November 2017 (UTC)

Data dump[change]

Hello, Could you please tell me where I can find the data dump for download for the simple wiktionary?


I tried, but could no locate it here: https://dumps.wikimedia.org/enwiktionary/latest/

Thanks. This unsigned comment was added by Simone40love (talk • contribs) 03:05, 25 October 2017.

https://dumps.wikimedia.org/simplewiktionary/latest/ --Brett (talk) 10:39, 25 October 2017 (UTC)

New print to pdf feature for mobile web readers[change]

CKoerner (WMF) (talk) 22:07, 20 November 2017 (UTC)

Changes to the global ban policy[change]

Following copied in manually from Ladino Wikipedia's version of this page because evidently delivery failed here. StevenJ81 (talk) 14:24, 21 November 2017 (UTC)
Hello. Some changes to the community global ban policy have been proposed. Your comments are welcome at m:Requests for comment/Improvement of global ban policy. Please translate this message to your language, if needed. Cordially. Matiia (Matiia) 00:34 12 Novembris 2017 (UTC)

about communication skills[change]

how to improve communication skills

Do you want to learn how to communicate better in English? —Justin (koavf)TCM☯ 21:13, 21 December 2017 (UTC)

Tell us what you think about the automatic links for Wiktionary[change]


Birgit Müller (WMDE) 14:53, 7 May 2018 (UTC)

Lexicographical data is now available on Wikidata[change]

Request for importer tool[change]

Hi. I would like to use the import tool to import pages from the Move to Wiktionary category to here. However, Wiktionary:Transwiki importers says that I need to gain a local consensus before requesting the tool on Meta. I have plenty of experience despite taking a recent one-month Wikibreak. Thanks. Pkbwcgs (talk) 09:02, 3 June 2018 (UTC)

It's fine with me.--Brett (talk) 12:21, 3 June 2018 (UTC)
Okay. Pkbwcgs (talk) 16:12, 3 June 2018 (UTC)
Support temporary importer. I don't see any reason to keep permanent importer. Hiàn (talk) 19:57, 3 June 2018 (UTC)
Another note, how long do you plan to have the flag? Hiàn (talk) 19:58, 3 June 2018 (UTC)
@Hiàn: Hi. I will have the flag for three months. Pkbwcgs (talk) 16:13, 5 June 2018 (UTC)
@Pkbwcgs: Is there any particular reason why you decided to request the flag before telling us this information? Hiàn (talk) 03:32, 11 June 2018 (UTC)
@Hiàn: Can you please clarify your above comment. What information is required? A steward has already assigned the flag before I said that 'I will have the flag for three months'. Pkbwcgs (talk) 06:46, 11 June 2018 (UTC)
@Pkbwcgs: What I'm saying is that you should have told us how long the flag would have been implemented before you made the request to the stewards. The fact that you withheld this information until after you were granted the flag is a great disservice to the community, and to me, rather concerning. Hiàn (talk) 22:38, 11 June 2018 (UTC)

Oh, please! The oversight is minor and the stakes even less. It's hardly a "great disservice". Let it be.--Brett (talk) 00:01, 12 June 2018 (UTC)

Will do. I still see quite a few issues with this. Hiàn (talk) 00:38, 12 June 2018 (UTC)
At first, I didn't suggest a timeframe for how long I wanted this flag. A steward suggested that could assign it for three months and I said that is fine. Pkbwcgs (talk) 06:44, 12 June 2018 (UTC)
Apologies to you both. I blew the situation out of proportion without taking into consideration other things. Hiàn (talk) 00:55, 22 June 2018 (UTC)
Admirably said, Hiàn!--Brett (talk) 02:05, 22 June 2018 (UTC)

Update on page issues on mobile web[change]

CKoerner (WMF) (talk) 20:58, 12 June 2018 (UTC)

Proposal on Meta about SE Wikipedia[change]

Hi all. If you haven't seen or commented already, please see meta:Proposals for closing projects/Closure of Simple English Wikipedia (3). It details a proposal to close down the Simple English Wikipedia, which will almost definitely affect this wiki. Hiàn (talk) 21:56, 28 June 2018 (UTC)

I don't know about the state of SE Wiki, but I don't think it would be a bad thing to close this wiki if I understand what closure means. Doesn't it just mean most folks can't edit it? If so, that would save me doing all the pointless deletions and reversions. We've got entries for most pages that somebody would want in Simple English. For other things, they can go to the regular English wiktionary.--Brett (talk) 00:11, 29 June 2018 (UTC)
Yeah, closure means all editors except stewards can edit. Not sure I agree with the point you made about closure, but definitely something worth noting. Hiàn (talk) 21:48, 29 June 2018 (UTC)
FWIW, I'll mention that as along as SE Wikipedia stays open, this project is protected from closure. If it does nothing else, this project is a repository for definitions of terms where (a) SE Wikipedia doesn't have an article (yet, and perhaps not for a while), but (b) the term itself is outside the boundaries of "Simple English" and needs explanation. StevenJ81 (talk) 15:16, 19 July 2018 (UTC)

Update: Proposal was closed as unsuccessful, and both projects will stay open. For additional details, see w:Talk:Main Page#Update (1 August 2018). StevenJ81 (talk) 17:35, 1 August 2018 (UTC)

Global preferences are available[change]

19:19, 10 July 2018 (UTC)

New user group for editing sitewide CSS / JS[change]

I forget, do we have a policy for this yet? And if not, we need one, don't we? Hiàn (talk/editing on mobile account) 23:47, 30 July 2018 (UTC)

Wiktionary Cognate Dashboard[change]

Proposal to delete Simple English Wikiquote and Wikibooks[change]

There is a now a proposal to delete Simple English Wikiquote and Wikibooks. Agusbou2015 (talk) 22:20, 26 August 2018 (UTC)

Proposal withdrawn, and the projects will not be deleted. StevenJ81 (talk) 14:49, 28 August 2018 (UTC)

Editing of sitewide CSS/JS is only possible for interface administrators from now[change]

(Please help translate to your language)

Hi all,

as announced previously, permission handling for CSS/JS pages has changed: only members of the interface-admin (Interface administrators) group, and a few highly privileged global groups such as stewards, can edit CSS/JS pages that they do not own (that is, any page ending with .css or .js that is either in the MediaWiki: namespace or is another user's user subpage). This is done to improve the security of readers and editors of Wikimedia projects. More information is available at Creation of separate user group for editing sitewide CSS/JS. If you encounter any unexpected problems, please contact me or file a bug.

Tgr (talk) 12:40, 27 August 2018 (UTC) (via global message delivery)

so who grants the user groups? Tyler de Noche (talk) 14:37, 27 August 2018 (UTC)
@Tyler de Noche: The bureaucrats will, although we don't exactly have a policy at the moment. Hiàn (talk) 20:19, 29 August 2018 (UTC)

ok then. Tyler de Noche (talk) 20:46, 29 August 2018 (UTC)

Read-only mode for up to an hour on 12 September and 10 October[change]

13:33, 6 September 2018 (UTC)

Draft page for interface administrator permissions[change]

Hi all, I'll be working on a draft for the next few days for the interface administrator user rights. Community input is absolutely essential and I'd appreciate comments or suggestions. Hiàn (talk) 00:50, 20 September 2018 (UTC)

I think your draft looks good. I'll add something maybe after wards. Tyler de Noche (talk) 23:43, 20 September 2018 (UTC)

now, the page is published at Wiktionary:Interface administrators. Tyler de Noche (talk) 22:37, 4 October 2018 (UTC)