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Now that the voting contest of the new Wiktionary logo has been released, it is now our decision of whether we use the new logo or keep our current one. You can compare the current version and the new version of the logo. This discussion will be closed once consensus is reached. This discussion will end on January 30, 2011.

Thank you all for your votes! This has resulted in the new logo winning in a close 12:8! There are some last minute business to take care off regarding the logo. If you have any comments, please post at the bottom of this section.

Bugzilla report filed: bugzilla:27044

Simple English Wiktionary tile logo.png Wiktionary-logo-en-book.png


  1. (+) Very clear & visible; alternative is vague & unclear. Macdonald-Ross (talk) 14:20, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
  2. (+) Clear and concise. The alternative is vague and the book image is too small to be seen properly, especially the symbolic "puzzle piece". You can barely tell it's a book, much less a dictionary. Tempodivalse [talk] 16:06, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
    In reply to #2: Please see File:Wiki3.png. It clearly states that the image might be edited to fit into the site logo. Hydriz (talk) 16:08, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
    Maybe I'm misunderstanding, but how does that change anything? The site logo will remain the same pixel size, even if the book image is edited in some way it still has to be shrunken down to that size. Tempodivalse [talk] 19:26, 11 December 2010 (UTC)
  3. (+) Clearly seen; the book image is too difficult to see. Mikemoral♪♫ 22:22, 27 December 2010 (UTC)
  4. This one per all above, also per Hydriz/PrincessofLyr/Barliner on the other side. Oh the irony. Bluegoblin7 (talk) 17:56, 28 December 2010 (UTC)
  5. (+)I completely support the old one Addihockey10 (talk) 21:31, 28 December 2010 (UTC)
  6. (+)I like our current one better, It looks better. I would not mind going to the one most other Wiktionary's use. Tofutwitch11 (talk) 03:02, 29 December 2010 (UTC)
  7. (+) per all of the above.   — Jeff G. ツ 16:45, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
  8. (+) I'm not a fan of this or the book, but I like this one more.--Gordonrox24 (talk) 20:54, 25 January 2011 (UTC)


  1. (+) It is a clear logo that it is a dictionary for Simple English readers. Hydriz (talk) 06:40, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
  2. (+) Looks in my opinion much better. -Barras (talk) 12:27, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
  3. (+) Albacore (talk) 14:02, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
  4. (+) The other is brighter and honestly, more appealing to me, but this one makes the dictionary idea much more clear. PrincessofLlyr (talk) 16:09, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
  5. (+) Fulfills function of logo to identify concept. Looks much better. Barliner (talk) 17:47, 28 December 2010 (UTC)
  6. (+) Seems less vague foreign and confusing. Also more attractive. Kiko4564 (talk) 15:20, 31 December 2010 (UTC)
  7. (+) I'm in. Mr. Berty (talk) 11:21, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
  8. (+) Much clearer iconographically speaking, although the puzzle piece motif could be much bigger and prominent. The current one is a jumble and has no clearly defined shape. C xong (talk) 00:14, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
  9. (+) Looks better than the previous one. Pmlineditor  10:52, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
  10. (+) Very clear that the new logo is a dictionary for Simple English readers and writers. Wpeaceout - Chill out and chat 20:12, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
  11. (+) Looks much better, though not the best --Extra 999 (Contact me + changes) 04:54, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
  12. (+) Combining the traditional image of a dictionary with the puzzle look of Wikimedia's most recognizable logo makes absolute sense. - TheDaveRoss (talk) 20:45, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
This doesn't require a bug report. An admin can change the logo by uploading the new one at File:Wiki.png. --Yair rand (talk) 21:50, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
  • This may be an issue... "It's worth noting, however, that this new logo does not fit the guidelines -- the language name is not supposed to be included in the logo, it's just supposed to say "Wiktionary / the free dictionary". You should probably fix that before updating Wiki.png." Casey Brown --Gordonrox24 | Talk 21:57, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

Happy New Year's[change]

What will your Wiktionary resolution for 2011 be? Thanks, Wpeaceout (talk) 00:22, 1 January 2011 (UTC)

Happy New Year to you too! I usually don't have resolutions because I never follow up on them :-) but I'll try to create some more entries and encourage others to do the same. Tempodivalse [talk] 16:09, 1 January 2011 (UTC)
Thanks Tempo. Mine is to keep the wiki cleaner with good use of rollback and write good entries. Wpeaceout (talk) 23:14, 1 January 2011 (UTC)

Serious issue...[change]

I believe all of us have the habit of signing our posts whenever we add to a talk page. But please take note: There are some templates, like {{Welcome}}, which have the autosigning feature as Twinkle currently does not support signing of posts here(as what I could see). Please skip the signature part next time. Cheers! Hydriz (talk) 07:17, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

I guess it refers to me... That's a problem of my monobook actually... -Barras (talk) 12:13, 7 January 2011 (UTC)
Is the autosigning a new feature? Because I've noticed that my welcomes mysteriously end up with two signatures. It will take a long time to unlearn that habit ... Tempodivalse [talk] 20:26, 14 January 2011 (UTC)
Nope, nothing new. It is this way for a quite long time already. -Barras (talk) 21:32, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

Adding images[change]

My class in the next two weeks is going to be working on the AWL words and adding information to pages. One thing they need to do is to include an image that helps explain the world to other English as Second Language Learners. I don't see the "Upload File" link under toolbox. Can someone please tell me how students should add an image to their definitions. Thanks! This unsigned comment was added by Jutecht (talk • contribs) .

Hello! Firstly, the channel you joined a few hours ago was the correct one, but I was sadly not around at this time to help you directly. You may want to look at commons if there is a picture available. If not, it would be the best to upload new pictures to commons instead to this pages. This helps other Wikis related to Wikimedia as well. You can include the the file on Wiktionary on any page with [[File:Name_of_your_file_you_found_or_uploaded.jpg|thumb|This picture shows something.]] I hope this helps you for now. If you have any further question, feel free to ask here or join the IRC channel again! -Barras (talk) 14:43, 13 January 2011 (UTC)



I wish to create a new account for a bot. This bot will do accelerated page and interwiki tasks. Thanks. Wpeaceout - Chill out and chat 20:25, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

Accelerated pages should be done manually since they aren't perfect. They always need to check if there are audio files and things. This clearly is not bot work. As for interwikis, I don't see much of a problem. -Barras (talk) 23:02, 13 January 2011 (UTC)
Thanks. Wpeaceout - Chill out and chat 23:52, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

Odd user contributions[change]

I note that Number9 (talk · changes), Yukiy (talk · changes), Myuki (talk · changes), YuRi (talk · changes), Kahon (talk · changes), and Selina (talk · changes) were created within two minutes of each other and altogether made about ~20 edits in the period of half an hour. None of these users' contributions raise any red flags, but it looks a little strange nonetheless. Admins, please consider keeping an eye on these accounts. Tempodivalse [talk] 18:21, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

If one of them is going to vandalize/being disruptive, we can easily seek stewardhelp on meta. They can run a cu check then. -Barras (talk) 19:51, 18 January 2011 (UTC)