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Stewards confirmation rules[change]

Hello, I made a proposal on Meta to change the rules for the steward confirmations. Currently consensus to remove is required for a steward to lose his status, however I think it's fairer to the community if every steward needed the consensus to keep. As this is an issue that affects all WMF wikis, I'm sending this notification to let people know & be able to participate. Best regards, --MF-W 16:12, 10 April 2015 (UTC)

Nominations are being accepted for 2015 Wikimedia Foundation elections[change]

This is a message from the 2015 Wikimedia Foundation Elections Committee. Translations are available.

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Greetings,

I am pleased to announce that nominations are now being accepted for the 2015 Wikimedia Foundation Elections. This year the Board and the FDC Staff are looking for a diverse set of candidates from regions and projects that are traditionally under-represented on the board and in the movement as well as candidates with experience in technology, product or finance. To this end they have published letters describing what they think is needed and, recognizing that those who know the community the best are the community themselves, the election committee is accepting nominations for community members you think should run and will reach out to those nominated to provide them with information about the job and the election process.

This year, elections are being held for the following roles:

Board of Trustees
The Board of Trustees is the decision-making body that is ultimately responsible for the long term sustainability of the Foundation, so we value wide input into its selection. There are three positions being filled. More information about this role can be found at the board elections page.

Funds Dissemination Committee (FDC)
The Funds Dissemination Committee (FDC) makes recommendations about how to allocate Wikimedia movement funds to eligible entities. There are five positions being filled. More information about this role can be found at the FDC elections page.

Funds Dissemination Committee (FDC) Ombud
The FDC Ombud receives complaints and feedback about the FDC process, investigates complaints at the request of the Board of Trustees, and summarizes the investigations and feedback for the Board of Trustees on an annual basis. One position is being filled. More information about this role can be found at the FDC Ombudsperson elections page.

The candidacy submission phase lasts from 00:00 UTC April 20 to 23:59 UTC May 5 for the Board and from 00:00 UTCApril 20 to 23:59 UTC April 30 for the FDC and FDC Ombudsperson. This year, we are accepting both self-nominations and nominations of others. More information on this election and the nomination process can be found on the 2015 Wikimedia elections page on Meta-Wiki.

Please feel free to post a note about the election on your project's village pump. Any questions related to the election can be posted on the talk page on Meta, or sent to the election committee's mailing list, board-elections -at- wikimedia.org

On behalf of the Elections Committee,
-Gregory Varnum (User:Varnent)
Coordinator, 2015 Wikimedia Foundation Elections Committee

Posted by the MediaWiki message delivery on behalf of the 2015 Wikimedia Foundation Elections Committee, 05:03, 21 April 2015 (UTC) • TranslateGet help

Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees elections 2015[change]

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This is a message from the 2015 Wikimedia Foundation Elections Committee. Translations are available.

Voting has begun for eligible voters in the 2015 elections for the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees. Questions and discussion with the candidates for the Board will continue during the voting.

The Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees is the ultimate governing authority of the Wikimedia Foundation, a 501(c)(3) non-profit organization registered in the United States. The Wikimedia Foundation manages many diverse projects such as Wikipedia and Commons.

The voting phase lasts from 00:00 UTC May 17 to 23:59 UTC May 31. Click here to vote. More information on the candidates and the elections can be found on the 2015 Board election page on Meta-Wiki.

On behalf of the Elections Committee,
-Gregory Varnum (User:Varnent)
Volunteer Coordinator, 2015 Wikimedia Foundation Elections Committee

Posted by the MediaWiki message delivery 17:20, 17 May 2015 (UTC) • TranslateGet help

Pywikibot compat will no longer be supported - Please migrate to pywikibot core[change]

Sorry for English, I hope someone translates this.
Pywikibot (then "Pywikipediabot") was started back in 2002. In 2007 a new branch (formerly known as "rewrite", now called "core") was started from scratch using the MediaWiki API. The developers of Pywikibot have decided to stop supporting the compat version of Pywikibot due to bad performance and architectural errors that make it hard to update, compared to core. If you are using pywikibot compat it is likely your code will break due to upcoming MediaWiki API changes (e.g. T101524). It is highly recommended you migrate to the core framework. There is a migration guide, and please contact us if you have any problem.

There is an upcoming MediaWiki API breaking change that compat will not be updated for. If your bot's name is in this list, your bot will most likely break.

Thank you,
The Pywikibot development team, 19:30, 5 June 2015 (UTC)

Computer-readable word lists?[change]

Hello all, I am in the process of developing a program that will be able to read in a word list, a wiki page, and then highlight all the words not on the list. At the moment, I face the following problems:

  • I need a list with all forms; the only lists that support this currently are the BNC (British national corpus) lists
  • All lists having the same format simplifies reading in the list.

So my basic question: would it make sense to present all the word lists in the same format? --Eptalon (talk) 15:14, 9 June 2015 (UTC)

HTTPS[change]

22:01, 19 June 2015 (UTC)

Proposal to create PNG thumbnails of static GIF images[change]

The thumbnail of this gif is of really bad quality.
How a PNG thumb of this GIF would look like

There is a proposal at the Commons Village Pump requesting feedback about the thumbnails of static GIF images: It states that static GIF files should have their thumbnails created in PNG. The advantages of PNG over GIF would be visible especially with GIF images using an alpha channel. (compare the thumbnails on the side)

This change would affect all wikis, so if you support/oppose or want to give general feedback/concerns, please post them to the proposal page. Thank you. --McZusatz (talk) & MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 05:07, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

Proposal to create PNG thumbnails of static GIF images[change]

The thumbnail of this gif is of really bad quality.
How a PNG thumb of this GIF would look like

There is a proposal at the Commons Village Pump requesting feedback about the thumbnails of static GIF images: It states that static GIF files should have their thumbnails created in PNG. The advantages of PNG over GIF would be visible especially with GIF images using an alpha channel. (compare the thumbnails on the side)

This change would affect all wikis, so if you support/oppose or want to give general feedback/concerns, please post them to the proposal page. Thank you. --McZusatz (talk) & MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 06:32, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

What does a Healthy Community look like to you?[change]

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Hi,
The Community Engagement department at the Wikimedia Foundation has launched a new learning campaign. The WMF wants to record community impressions about what makes a healthy online community. Share your views and/or create a drawing and take a chance to win a Wikimania 2016 scholarship! Join the WMF as we begin a conversation about Community Health. Contribute a drawing or answer the questions on the campaign's page.

Why get involved?[change]

The world is changing. The way we relate to knowledge is transforming. As the next billion people come online, the Wikimedia movement is working to bring more users on the wiki projects. The way we interact and collaborate online are key to building sustainable projects. How accessible are Wikimedia projects to newcomers today? Are we helping each other learn?
Share your views on this matter that affects us all!
We invite everyone to take part in this learning campaign. Wikimedia Foundation will distribute one Wikimania Scholarship 2016 among those participants who are eligible.

More information[change]


Happy editing!

MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 23:42, 31 July 2015 (UTC)

How can we improve Wikimedia grants to support you better?[change]

My apologies for posting this message in English. Please help translate it if you can.

Hello,

The Wikimedia Foundation would like your feedback about how we can reimagine Wikimedia Foundation grants, to better support people and ideas in your Wikimedia project. Ways to participate:

Feedback is welcome in any language.

With thanks,

I JethroBT (WMF), Community Resources, Wikimedia Foundation.

(Opt-out Instructions) This message was sent by I JethroBT (WMF) through MediaWiki message delivery. 23:09, 18 August 2015 (UTC)

Introducing the Wikimedia public policy site[change]

Hi all,

We are excited to introduce a new Wikimedia Public Policy site. The site includes resources and position statements on access, copyright, censorship, intermediary liability, and privacy. The site explains how good public policy supports the Wikimedia projects, editors, and mission.

Visit the public policy portal: https://policy.wikimedia.org/

Please help translate the statements on Meta Wiki. You can read more on the Wikimedia blog.

Thanks,

Yana and Stephen (Talk) 18:13, 2 September 2015 (UTC)

(Sent with the Global message delivery system)

Open call for Individual Engagement Grants[change]

My apologies for posting this message in English. Please help translate it if you can.

Greetings! The Individual Engagement Grants program is accepting proposals until September 29th to fund new tools, community-building processes, and other experimental ideas that enhance the work of Wikimedia volunteers. Whether you need a small or large amount of funds (up to $30,000 USD), Individual Engagement Grants can support you and your team’s project development time in addition to project expenses such as materials, travel, and rental space.

Thanks,

I JethroBT (WMF), Community Resources, Wikimedia Foundation. 20:52, 4 September 2015 (UTC)

(Opt-out Instructions) This message was sent by I JethroBT (WMF) (talk) through MediaWiki message delivery.

Only one week left for Individual Engagement Grant proposals![change]

(Apologies for using English below, please help translate if you are able.)

There is still one week left to submit Individual Engagement Grant (IEG) proposals before the September 29th deadline. If you have ideas for new tools, community-building processes, and other experimental projects that enhance the work of Wikimedia volunteers, start your proposal today! Please encourage others who have great ideas to apply as well. Support is available if you want help turning your idea into a grant request.

I JethroBT (WMF), Community Resources 21:01, 22 September 2015 (UTC)

Reimagining WMF grants report[change]

(My apologies for using English here, please help translate if you are able.)

Last month, we asked for community feedback on a proposal to change the structure of WMF grant programs. Thanks to the 200+ people who participated! A report on what we learned and changed based on this consultation is now available.

Come read about the findings and next steps as WMF’s Community Resources team begins to implement changes based on your feedback. Your questions and comments are welcome on the outcomes discussion page.

With thanks, I JethroBT (WMF) 16:57, 28 September 2015 (UTC)

Time to move on...[change]

Hi all! I'm not sure anyone here will even read it, however, after being kind of around for many years, I think it's just fair to leave a comment here before moving on. In fact, I've been pretty much inactive for a long period of time and haven't been involved here with anything. My activity was only rather sporadic, so I assume no one will really miss me here anyway. So I decided to officially move on, meaning to retire here from my advanced permissions I hold. It doesn't mean that I'm then gone entirely. I'm still a steward and so I'll still be able to help as needed. However, I see no real reason to keep rights I rarely ever use. Due to the number of other rights I hold and all things I do here, I simply don't have the time to be of any use for this very project. I don't like people holding rights for no real reason and so I should go ahead and remove my permissions. I will wait for a few days before doing so, maybe someone needs some assistance I can easier give with local rights. Just ping me! -Barras talk 15:24, 10 October 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for all the work that you have done! With your departure, we will only be left with one bureaucrat, so granting bot flags will probably be different now. Perhaps we can reconsider the policy of granting bot flags? --Hydriz (talk) 07:40, 11 October 2015 (UTC)
You could just apply for crat flag :) Or want me to nominate you (well, then it would be odd for me to close the request, but meh). I've no rush and can wait... -Barras talk 09:12, 11 October 2015 (UTC)
All the best!--Brett (talk) 11:09, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
  • I've removed my admin rights locally and then the crat rights via meta. However, as steward I can (if needed) still delete and block here and pretty much do whatever needs to be done. So if help is needed, let me know! -Barras talk 10:32, 16 October 2015 (UTC)

Question from inexperienced Wiktionarian[change]

I just added a family of pages around "demote" and "demotion".

  1. Did I do this correctly?
  2. Is there a bot that finds iw links?

Thanks. StevenJ81 (talk) 14:14, 26 October 2015 (UTC)

These are excellent both in content and format. Thank you! The way you handeled antonyms in promotion is preferred over the way you did in demote.--Brett (talk) 20:35, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
Thank you. Now fixed. (I discovered {{antonyms}} somewhere in midstream. In demote I copied what I had seen in promote. Both of those are now updated.) StevenJ81 (talk) 22:45, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
For number 2, yes. HydrizBot and a few other bots are in charge of maintaining interwiki links. --Hydriz (talk) 01:04, 27 October 2015 (UTC)

[change]

Simple Wiktionary logo.svg

I wonder if we should use the version at right as the logo in the upper left corner, in place of the current one. Nothing in the current one identifies this as Simple Wiktionary. (I didn't create this; I found it at Commons.) StevenJ81 (talk) 15:12, 29 October 2015 (UTC)

Nice find. We'll see what others say.--Brett (talk) 19:32, 29 October 2015 (UTC)
I created that version, but if you look at the original discussion and on Phabricator, we were informed that the language name is not supposed to be included in the logo. Of course, we can always change that ruling here (since over on Wikipedia they violate this rule). --Hydriz (talk) 02:32, 30 October 2015 (UTC)
Well, there is one critical difference between Simple English and every other "language". In all other cases, as long as there are words in the logo (as opposed to graphics only), one can tell what language one is using simply by reading the text (project name, tag line, whatever). Here, there is no way to distinguish from English in that manner. As you noted, Simple English Wikipedia identifies itself in its logo, and has for years. In the unique case of Simple English this makes sense. I think we should do that here, too. StevenJ81 (talk) 14:19, 30 October 2015 (UTC)
Shall we make a decision? StevenJ81 (talk) 16:15, 3 November 2015 (UTC)
I am neutral on this matter, so I rather gather the opinion of other people as well. I agree with your point on differentiating between the two language editions, but I don't exactly feel that we should change the project logo for that. I don't have a strong argument on this one so I am open to suggestions. --Hydriz (talk) 04:19, 4 November 2015 (UTC)
I like the one Hydriz made, for what that's worth.--Brett (talk) 11:18, 4 November 2015 (UTC)
Well, if we use the one you made that's pictured just above, we're not changing the logo much, after all. We're just changing it enough to clarify the differentiation from English Wiktionary. So that's how I'd go. StevenJ81 (talk) 15:53, 4 November 2015 (UTC)
  • I personally like the one mentioning the language version and support the change. We can always say we didn't know better and there are surely more violations than this one. ;) -Barras talk 16:27, 4 November 2015 (UTC)
    I kind of liked the old (as in, from several years ago) logo with the Scrabble tiles and the text "Simple English Wiktionary". The current logo looks too different from the other WMF logos to be a nice fit ... Tempodivalse [talk] 00:03, 5 November 2015 (UTC)
    I'll take that comment as favoring the identification of "Simple English Wiktionary". As to which of the two to use, I rather like the one Tempodivalse described myself. But I don't mind this project having a unique look, and don't feel strongly about that part. I do strongly want the identification of "Simple English", though. StevenJ81 (talk) 14:46, 5 November 2015 (UTC)
    I really liked the old "Scrabble" logo too, but I'm fine with the new one with "Simple English" if the community feels like this project needs a distinct, recognizable logo. PiRSquared17 (talk) 03:51, 11 November 2015 (UTC)

Encouraging a conclusion[change]

Do we have a consensus here? StevenJ81 (talk) 15:19, 18 November 2015 (UTC)