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Latest comment: 11 years ago by Hazard-SJ in topic Wiktionary:Requests for deletion#Appendices



It's good to see people are starting to take an interest in Simple English Wiktionary. There are very few contributors here and as for me, as my English is poor I think it is best to leave the definitions to others. I originally asked for bureaucrat status but was only given admin status. I don't think we really need a bureaucrat at the moment. If you want admin status yourself you can always ask at Meta. Good luck moving stuff from Wikipedia. Gerard Foley 18:26, 28 January 2006 (UTC)Reply

Being an admin means you can:

  1. Edit protected pages (including the MediaWiki namespace)
  2. Delete (and undelete) pages
  3. Protect (and unprotect) pages
  4. Block (and unblock) users

I have only ever used the first two. You also get a rollback button, but non admins can do that by editing the old version of a page. If you want to be an admin go ahead, just don't expect anything life changing :). Just remember, don't protect pages when you're in an edit war, or block a user your in disagreement with.

As for linking to English Wiktionary, I think that's a little silly if we have the entry here. Wiktionary can be very complex (even I have trouble understanding it). This should be a lot simpler.

Netoholic has been known to act in an unfriendly manner to people who disagree with him (such as blocking them)

If that's true then he is way out of line. You should never block someone just because you disagree with them. Gerard Foley 18:27, 1 February 2006 (UTC)Reply

Welcome back!


--Brett 00:52, 13 June 2007 (UTC)Reply

Admin questions


Those "universal templates" are in the MediaWiki namespace. They can be edited like any other page. To view you can go to Special:Allpages and select MediaWiki for the namespace. A better way is to go to Special:Allmessages. For the ones in red and green, red is the default version, and green is the version used. Gerard Foley 23:45, 19 February 2006 (UTC)Reply

I've replied on my talk page; sorry for the delay. Thanks! Flcelloguy 16:10, 20 February 2006 (UTC)Reply
P.S. Oh, welcome; if you ever have any questions at all, please don't hesistate to ask me either. (I've been an admin at en wikipedia for quite some time now...) Thanks! Flcelloguy 16:12, 20 February 2006 (UTC)Reply
Your input would be appreciated at Wiktionary:Administrators#Patrolled edits. Thanks! Flcelloguy 17:21, 20 February 2006 (UTC)Reply
I'm not going to make any opinion or express judgement of the situation in any way, since I haven't thoroughly reviewed the situation and haven't contributed to simple en Wikipedia in a while, but I'll give you a few options (again, I am neither supporting nor advocating against any of this, merely giving you what options you have from the basis of your description): first, try talking to him more. Ask him to respond to you, or perhaps email you or talk to you via other means. Often, discussion is the panacea of all disputes; it won't hurt to talk more. Tell him how you feel, and urge him to respond back. If that doesn't work, you may try other means of dispute resolution, such as talking to the other administrators (if I remember correctly there's a few others), or perhaps start something similar to an RfC process. (Also, note that Netoholic never went through a RfA-like or RfB-like process; he was given "temporary" adminship and bureaucratship, IIRC, which was never taken away. If the community feels that he should be put through such a process, you should bring that up, and once you have general consensus, bring that up on meta.) Finally, if that doesn't work, try the dispute resolution process on en - perhaps call in a mediator (don't call me in, I'd likely recuse myself!) or take an unprecedented step of asking the ArbCom to take a look at a simple en dispute. Again, I make no endorsement of these actions because I haven't looked at the case; I'm simply giving you some options. I hope that helps! Thanks! Flcelloguy 19:51, 21 February 2006 (UTC)Reply

My puzzle


I forgot to get back to you about this. I stole it from w:en:Image:Countdown letters game.jpg. I'll put a new one on my user page if you're interested. Gerard Foley 22:37, 2 March 2006 (UTC)Reply

Forget about my stupid puzzle, you need to try this http://www.flashbits.co.uk/games/countdown/countdown.html ! Gerard Foley 01:13, 4 March 2006 (UTC)Reply



Just to let you know that I have started my own wiki. That is why I won't have time to do much here. You are of coarse welcome to help out if you want. If you ever need anything just let me know. Gerard Foley 12:46, 29 March 2006 (UTC)Reply

Hi, can you please go to my wiki again and let me know what happens. I reinstalled MediaWiki so I hope this will fix the problems people were having. Thanks, Gerard Foley.

Your questions


To change the logo you just need to make a new one and upload it to Image:Wiki.png. Make sure it's the right size, if it's too big it will probably break the site. As for the title line, I don't know which one you're talking about but when I need to find these things I go to the system messages page and do a search on the page for what I want. Most web browsers have a "search this page" option under the edit menu. Gerard Foley 11:10, 31 March 2006 (UTC)Reply

Part of speech templates


In reply to your message on my talk page User_talk:Brett, you're right, I should have opened a discussion. Will do so.

Pen Pal Wiki


Hi. Thanks for your contributions so far to Pen Pal Wiki. It's really appreciated. If you could possibly help me to implement some of your suggestions, it would be even more appreciated! I've replied to your comments on Pen Pal Wiki, so feel free to read them and reply if you so please. 07:47, 29 August 2006 (UTC) (wikia:penpal:User:Markdarb) Bold textReply

Babel boxes!


I got Babel boxes to work. I copied "Template:Babel" from English Wiktionary to Simple English Wiktionary. Now a little number of Babel boxes work. We need to copy many pages like "Template:User de-3" from English Wiktionary to Simple English Wiktionary and then many Babel boxes will work. Maybe we need to copy pages one at a time. Maybe an admin can copy many pages easily. I don't know. --Coppertwig 15:47, 3 December 2006 (UTC)Reply



Honestly, I don't know which is better ("BE850" or spelling it out). Sorry, I haven't been very active here lately. Maybe I'll get more active again. I've been doing a bit on Simple English Wikiquote, at least. --Coppertwig 00:36, 27 May 2007 (UTC)Reply


Hello! You seem to be an active editor here so I am directing this question to you. I'm an admin on Simple English Wikipedia and have an idea on coordination between projects. I would like to have a link to the Category:Move to Wiktionary page listed prominently on the main page here. I figure this would be a good place for editors here to start since these pages already have basic dictionary defintions on them and would (in theory) take less time and energy to transform into an SE Wiktionary page. What do you think? Or perhaps there is already a link to this page somewhere that I haven't noticed. Please reply on my SE Wikipedia talk page since I am more active there. Thank you. Tygartl1 18:44, 13 June 2007 (UTC)Reply

Okay, so you were active yesterday and then not for a long time before that. I'm sorry. I'll ask someone else since you may not know any more than I do about it :-) Tygartl1 19:32, 13 June 2007 (UTC)Reply
What do you think of the main page? Almost as an afterthought, I also added a link to the "What links here" page for the wiktionary template. A lot of times, editors (including me) add the template to pages saying, "Look at this page on SE Wiktionary" but the page doesn't exist here. I thought it'd be another way to encourage the creation of pages that are clearly wanted. If you don't like my formatting, feel free to change it--I won't be offended or anything :-)
Also, I took a look at EN WKT to see if they have links to something similar on EN WP. They have a page called Things to do which might be an example to follow if it's a good (useful) idea for here. Tygartl1 17:39, 18 June 2007 (UTC)Reply
P.S. I have also replied to you on my talk page on SE WP. Tygartl1 17:41, 18 June 2007 (UTC)Reply

What to focus on


I think the lists you've made are very useful, though they will contain some of the hardest words to define since the most frequent words tend to be the most polysemous. On top of this, defining the most common words with even more common ones is tough. Anyhow, as you can probably tell, I'm working on the AWL. That's where the curriculum where I teach is focussed.--Brett 00:35, 14 June 2007 (UTC)Reply

Original research


I noticed your question about original research over on the Wiktionary in the Beer Parlour. I assume you were referring to me. Please understand that this is not a question of original research. There is plenty of well-established work in linguistics by major people in the field behind the framework that I'm following. It is not the traditional framework, but it is a much more consistent and well-reasoned one. There is no point in following tradition simply for tradition's sake and when a better system comes along, I'm very happy to follow it. If you get a copy of A Student's Introduction to English Grammar, that should inform any further discussion.--Brett 15:46, 4 July 2007 (UTC)Reply

Transwiki majuscules


I noticed that the pages you brought in all start with majuscules. I assume these should be changed to minuscules. Just wanted to confirm it before moving them.--Brett 22:40, 27 July 2007 (UTC)Reply


When you use the heading ===Related words===, you fill it with things that people might think of when they think of this word, things that are in the same semantic space. On the EN Wiktionary, these go under ===See also===. Related words is used for words of the same family (i.e., sharing the same root) or compound words that contain the word in question. See, for example en:complement#Related_terms. I'd like to follow the same format here and indeed have been doing so in the pages I've created.--Brett 01:54, 4 August 2007 (UTC)Reply

Yes, cent is close to what I'd do. I'd rename derived terms to related words and put the two lists together.--Brett 12:12, 4 August 2007 (UTC)Reply
I'm somewhat confused by all that. Could you (or Brett) please list all the allowed/encouraged headings e.g. synonym, antonym, related words etc. and summarize what types of words should be under each? I already know what to put under synonym and antonym but need some clarification as to what other headings there are and what goes under them. For example, might "morning" go under "related words" on the "afternoon" page? --Coppertwig 02:03, 5 August 2007 (UTC)Reply

What's a determiner?


A determiner is a noun modifier that expresses the reference of a noun or noun phrase in the context, including quantity, rather than attributes expressed by adjectives.

Determiners form a closed class of words that number (exclusive of cardinal and ordinal numerals) about 50 in English and include[1]:

  • Articles: a, an, the
  • Demonstratives: this, that, these, those, which, etc.
  • Quantifiers: all, few, many, several, some, every, each, any, no, etc.
  • Cardinal Numbers: one, two, fifty, etc.

Some of them can be used in other lexical categories, such as the pronoun that in that is good as opposed to the determiner that in that one.

Differences from adjectives

Traditional English grammar does not include determiners and calls most determiners adjectives. There are, however, a number of key differences between determiners and adjectives.

  1. In English, articles, demonstratives, and possessive determiners cannot co-occur in the same phrase, while any number of adjectives are typically allowed.
  2. Most determiners cannot occur alone in predicative complement position; adjectives can.
  3. Most determiners are not gradable, while adjectives typically are.
  4. Adjectives are licensed independent of number, while some determiners are licensed only for singular or for plural nouns.
  5. Adjectives are never obligatory, while determiners often are.

Differences from pronouns

Determiners such as this, all, and some can often occur without a noun. In traditional grammar, these are called pronouns. There are, however, a number of key differences between such determiners and pronouns.

  1. Pronouns may occur in tag questions. Determiners can't.
  2. In phrasal verbs, pronouns must appear between the verb and particle. Determiners may occur after the particle.
  3. Pronouns all have distinct genitive forms. Determiners don't.

Interesting! But I don't know what a phrasal verb is. Could you give an example, and an example sentence illustrating that point? Thanks. --Coppertwig 15:17, 4 August 2007 (UTC)Reply

Making changes


I hope you don't mind if I change your definitions. I think it's more fun if more than one person works on a definition, and at the end we have better definitions. Brett and I are changing each other's definitions all the time, and we haven't had any edit wars yet (though the crucial time might come :-) Sometimes my words are too simple, or too many words. If I change something, you can change it again. You can even revert, with explanation in the edit summary. You don't have to ask first. Your definitions are good. Everyone's definitions can be made better. --Coppertwig 15:11, 4 August 2007 (UTC)Reply

Thanks for fixing the noun template


Thanks for the noun template for nouns with no singular. Do we need one for nouns with no plural, or do we say that nouns always have a plural, because it can mean "kinds of ..." as in "butters" meaning "kinds of butter" (and there can always be kinds of things in stories, even if there aren't in real life)? I was trying to think of nouns with no plural and I tried to think of things where there is only one, but it didn't work at all: "moons", "gods", "beginnings of universes" etc. I feel that "destruction" doesn't have a plural because it's like "butter" -- even if there is a lot, it's all a bunch of destruction. But maybe people who take down buildings talk about "destructions". (A million Google hits can't all be wrong?) Anyway, if you think all nouns can have plurals that's OK. --Coppertwig 16:18, 5 August 2007 (UTC)Reply

Hi Cromwellt


Please take a look at your simple wikibooks talk page. Thanks! Wikihermit 23:23, 7 August 2007 (UTC)Reply

Discussion about closing the proposal to close Simple English Wikiquote !


You might want to be part of this discussion that is happening now. Someone made a motion to close the discussion about closing Simple English Wikiquote. The discussion is at meta:Proposals for closing projects/Closure of Simple English Wikiquote. (Rather exciting, actually!) --Coppertwig 13:16, 12 August 2007 (UTC)Reply

User page


No, I copied my userpage from Simple WP over here and am in the process of fixing it. ionas



Back from a one year hiatus. So... er... did we resolve Wiktionary issue? Thanks in advance.--TBC 03:25, 1 March 2008 (UTC)Reply

BNC template


The whole point of using templates is so that you can make a single change and have it propagate through many pages. By changing the name of the template, you're making the need to edit 1000 pages. Note, also, that there will not be another word that requires the template. Given that, I suggest you undo the changes and leave well enough alone.--Brett 22:49, 21 March 2008 (UTC)Reply

I see. Glad to hear it!--Brett 23:29, 21 March 2008 (UTC)Reply

That's odd about the missing tags. I was going through the whole list alphabetically adding tags as I went. I though I had finished it all, but I guess I got distracted somewhere along the way. Have you found where I left off?--Brett 23:33, 21 March 2008 (UTC)Reply

By the way, what makes okay more real than OK?--Brett 00:45, 22 March 2008 (UTC)Reply



Is it OK for rude words in Wiktionary? This unsigned comment was added by The dust was a city (talk • contribs) 18:42, 27 April 2008.

Replied. --Cromwellt|talk|contribs 23:22, 27 April 2008 (UTC)Reply

good page


Hello Cromwellt. Please, can thou put a link towards a good (complete and correct) page on Simple English Wiktionary. The dust was a city 20:08, 28 April 2008 (UTC)Reply

Writing pages


Hi there. As I have noticed, especially when you create new pages, when you write example sentences for the definitions that you write, you forget to place a colon : after the pound sign of the line that you write the example sentence on. An example of what I mean is my recent edit to the definition page for scientist. Please remember this in the future. Thanks, Razorflame 22:24, 17 August 2009 (UTC)Reply



Hello there! You've now been inactive on this wiki for over one year and not edited or made any other logged actions. I've proposed you for desysopping here. Best, -Barras (talk) 17:05, 31 August 2011 (UTC)Reply

Wiktionary:Requests for deletion#Appendices


Hello! If you're around and willing to, please leave a comment at the discussion here which involves two pages created by you. Thanks.  Hazard-SJ  ✈  20:17, 18 December 2012 (UTC)Reply