Wiktionary:Requests for deletion

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This page is for deletion requests, for when you think a page should be deleted. See our deletion rules for more information. Old requests can be found here.

Listing for deletion[change]

Start each deletion request with a link to the page (put the page name in brackets: [[like this]] = like this), then with your reason(s) the page should be deleted. Sign and date your deletion request automatically with ~~~~ (four tildes).

Quick deletion[change]

Remember to put {{delete|reason}} at the top of a page for quick deletion requests ("reason" should be replaced by your reason for the request):

This type of deletion request does not need to be listed on this page.

Regular deletion[change]

For regular requests, put {{delreq|reason}} at the top of a page, and list it here under "Deletion requests". That template will add this:

Not all deletion requests are listed here. There are probably more in Category:Deletion requests.

An example entry:

This entry is redundant, not notable, and all in all one that doesn't belong in a dictionary.  -- ~~~~
*'''Delete'''.  -- ~~~~

Voting on deletion requests[change]

If you wish to vote on a deletion, give your vote (delete, keep, move, comment, etc.), your reason(s), and your signature as above. One vote per username will be counted on each request. Creating a second account to vote more than once is called creating a sockpuppet. While you may create as many accounts as you want, the same person will not be allowed to vote more than once, even if he or she uses a different account. The same person may comment on a single request as much as he or she wishes.

Quick deletion requests[change]

This section is for pages that should be quickly deleted. Few pages belong in this section. If a page should be quickly deleted, putting {{delete}} at the top of the page is enough. Most pages should be discussed in the next section before being deleted. Only copyright violations, vandalism, etc. should be listed here.

Deletion requests[change]

Pages are deleted if there is no opposition to the request after 7 days

Category:Nouns with irregular plurals, Category:Irregular nouns, and Category:Irregular parts of speech[change]

This category tree only contains one word. There are probably thousands more entries here for irregular nouns, and also lots of irregular verbs, but is this a useful category to have here? Lights and freedom (talk) 03:16, 29 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

(Note) No consensus for deletion. MathXplore (talk) 06:10, 13 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep at least two of the three. The first two seem redundant, I'll agree, unless there are noun irregularities outside of the plural (other users like Brett would be better able to answer that), but the third one is broader. I can see getting rid of one of the first two if there's consensus. The fact that they only have one word just means we haven't really used them yet, but to me, that alone is no reason to delete them. --Cromwellt|talk|contribs 02:20, 22 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I was going to archive the request in the next few months, but since Brett has been mentioned at here, we may need to keep the discussion open. MathXplore (talk) 02:24, 22 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Well, there are nouns in other languages with irregular gender, such as Italian mano, which looks like it should masculine but is actually feminine, but of course, English nouns eschew gender. I suppose, then, those that still have gendered forms (e.g., waiter/waitress could be seen as irregular in a sense. And then there are forms like vixen, which is irregular in that it doesn't follow the usuall -ess pattern.
Transparent nouns such as number (e.g., a number of people are... where there is a singular head but agreement with the plural oblique) might be considered irregular, but that's a syntactic irregularity, and "irregular" is mostly applied to issues of morphology. Similarly, collective nouns could be seen as syntactically irregular. Perhaps, the category could include singular-only nouns like police. I suppose words like data, which present as Latin plural but behave as English singular might count. And words like news and mathematics should count, I suppose.
Finally, words with irregular stress patterns might be included, I'm thinking of things like hotel and guitar, which by rights should be stressed on the first syllable. --Brett (talk) 11:38, 22 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your comments. Some of that I knew, but some I certainly didn't. It sounds like you're saying that there are differences between nouns with irregular plurals and irregular nouns, even though you are using "could be" and "in a sense" a lot. But I'd say there's at least an argument to be made for keeping both of those cats, based on what you're saying. Let's keep all three. --Cromwellt|talk|contribs 19:29, 22 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I guess I'm saying that it really depends what someone might want to do with the categories. There are potential uses, but it strikes me as unlikely that anybody would care to gather those items together. Brett (talk) 14:08, 23 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I guess what I might object to here is "irregular parts of speech", which seems to suggest that a whole lexical category is irregular. Don't we just want "irregular words"? I haven't paid much attention to the ontology of our category system, so I could be confused on this point. Brett (talk) 14:11, 23 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]