User talk:Hydriz/Archive 1

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Hi Hydriz! WRT to your suggestion that we've reached consensus on the site logo issue, I'm not sure I agree with that. There have been only six total votes so far, and three of them are from what seems to be passersby. I'd rather we had some of the admins comment first since this is a fairly big change. I think we need to publicise this vote better and get more input - maybe I'll add something to the sitenotice. Tempodivalse [talk] 19:31, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

Defining style[change]

The default style on simple English wiktionary is for the meaning of a word to be given through an explanation which, where possible, uses the word in question. Write as if you are speaking directly to the reader and employ full sentences. For example, rather than the existing entry for the noun flare, you might write: "(countable) A flare is a ball of fire." Similarly, for condense, you could write: "(transitive & intransitive) If a gas condenses, it changes to a liquid."--Brett (talk) 14:13, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

Ah... I don't know about all these. I know what "countable" means. But not "transitive" or anything else. Hydriz (talk) 14:14, 19 December 2010 (UTC)
Not to worry. They can be added later. Focus on writing good definitions that explain meanings in full sentences.--Brett (talk) 13:10, 20 December 2010 (UTC)
Okay. Thanks for your help! Hydriz (talk) 02:41, 21 December 2010 (UTC)
You continue to define in phrases and fragments. For example, you wrote that skip is "An act of overlooking something on purpose." That's not a sentence and it doesn't employe the word skip. Try this: "If you skip something, you overlook it on purpose." Another example is your definition of liter "A measurement of water." Apart from being too limiting (litres measure lot of things, not just water), it isn't a sentence. You should write, "A liter is a..." Please, modify your existing definitions and apply the standard style in the future.--Brett (talk) 13:45, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
It's great to see you so active, but your definitions continue to go against the default style. Do you not understand the difference or do you have a reason for doing this?--Brett (talk) 18:29, 13 January 2011 (UTC)
I do hope I have not offended you in any way about my defining style, but I am not a professional. I don't really understand the difference much... After all, this is a wiki, a place for all contributors to work on the current and future pages. Hydriz (talk) 14:29, 14 January 2011 (UTC)
Hi Hydriz, I just wanted to say that Brett's suggested style is much easier to understand for people with a poor grasp of English. Let me try to explain this again: if you create a page, the definition part should include the word being defined and be a full sentence on its own. For instance, in a standard dictionary you would see, under "Cat", a definition: "A small furry animal". We would say, however, "A cat is a small furry animal". That makes a full sentence. For a verb, that's "If you [verb], it means that you [definition]." Sorry if we're badgering you too much here, but this is quite important to make sure all our entries conform to the same standard. Does this explain it better? Tempodivalse [talk] 14:45, 14 January 2011 (UTC)
Okay. I believe I roughly understand it. I will try to do it for my future entries. Thanks for your feedback! Hydriz (talk) 14:57, 14 January 2011 (UTC)
Thanks! You've gotten the hang of it, I think. giggle, lid, and harass are written with correct formatting. Keep it up! :-) Tempodivalse [talk] 18:23, 18 January 2011 (UTC)
Yeah! High five man! I will now be turning to Simple English Wiktionary as my full time job now. I am officially quiting Simple English Wikipedia as they have seriously annoyed me. Hydriz (talk) 09:04, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

Exemplifying vs using[change]

Congratulations on nailing the defining style. Now let's talk about the examples :-) Consider first your example: The Reds _________ with the police during the riot. Here you have a good chance of guessing that the missing word is clashed. There are clues, both syntactic (i.e., clashed with) and semantic (i.e., two (opposing?) groups doing something during a riot).

Now consider the following: I bought lots of _____ during my trip to Hawaii. If you hadn't written this, what do you think your chances of guessing that wig fits in the blank would be? This sentence uses wig but fails to exemplify it. Few people buy "lots of wigs", nor is Hawai'i particularly well known as a place to buy wigs. This could be anything from figs to Star Wars action figures. On the other hand, you would expect it to go with the verb wear, the colour is commonly mentioned, and it is often worn as part of a costume. These would be elements that would be very helpful in an example. Also, see my suggestions here.--Brett (talk) 13:11, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

I will try my best to understand it. I have bookmarked it on my browser, but I believe it might take some time before I am familiar with everything. Thanks for your help anyway! :) Hydriz (talk) 13:28, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
Nice improvement with troops!--Brett (talk) 01:22, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

countability and plurals[change]

Most uncountable nouns still have plural forms. These are typically used to signify different kinds. For example, "Our shop sells many fine cheeses." In the case of g-force, I'm not sure if it should be countable or uncountable or both, but the plural is certainly in common use.--Brett (talk) 12:19, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

I see, but I usually check for a plural form, if it doesn't, I usually assume that it is not plural... Hydriz (talk) 12:25, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

Related words[change]

Related words are etymologically related, not just semantically.--Brett (talk) 13:12, 20 February 2011 (UTC)

Your bot[change]

Hello! I just saw this. I want to remember you, that your bot is only allowed to do interwikis per this. Any additional task like cleaning the sandbox, welcoming new users and so on need additional approval. The bot is actually only approved to do interwikis and nothing else. Be careful. If I find any edit from the bot outside this approval (or any other admin does), it will be blocked as unauthorized bot. Just a reminder that you should keep in memory. -Barras (talk) 23:15, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

Erm, my bot has been approved for interwiki edits and cleaning the sandbox... Hydriz (talk) 14:10, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
No, I double-checked and it is approved for interwiki edits, but no one made noise about my bot cleaning the sandbox. Besides, there is no other bot that is also cleaning the sandbox, so it might be a little logical to allow it to clean the sandbox for our small community. Hydriz (talk) 14:13, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
Your bot isn't approved for cleaning the sandbox. Please do not do this task without approval. As such, for such a small community, the sandbox can be manually cleaned. Pmlineditor (t · c · l) 14:22, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
Yes check.svgY Done Task removed from list Hydriz (talk) 14:41, 24 February 2011 (UTC)


Hello! I've just granted you autopatrol rights here. The articles look ok, just one thing I'd like to remember you, please add templates such as {{countable}} or {{transitive}} and look for hyphenations. Best, -Barras (talk) 11:55, 6 March 2011 (UTC)

Thanks Barras! I have included these templates into my preloads so that new entries from me would include them. Thanks! Hydriz (talk) 09:04, 7 March 2011 (UTC)

And a few more notes. Patrolling finally isn't about how many entries you patrol (Many thanks for the recent help!), it is about the quality. Please keep in mind to always check whether words have a hyphenation, IPA, audio files, maybe pictures or links to Wikipedia. Just a few recent examples are lobby, tavern, melancholy and catapult. Keep up the work and also take a look how to improve further. Best, -Barras (talk) 17:50, 10 March 2011 (UTC)

Okay. Thanks for the note. :) Hydriz (talk) 08:03, 11 March 2011 (UTC)

my blunders[change]

thnx man --New (talk) 12:01, 21 March 2011 (UTC)

Lol, no worries. Glad to help :P Hydriz (talk) 12:02, 21 March 2011 (UTC)


In a number of your recent edits, you've marked as countable words like insurance. If the definition can't start with a or an (e.g., An insurance is...), then it's most likely not countable.--Brett (talk) 11:40, 24 March 2011 (UTC)

Oh, what about intransitive and transitive? When will a verb be transitive, when will it be intransitive, when will it be both? All these clarifications would greatly help me when I am editing. Thanks. Hydriz (talk) 13:06, 24 March 2011 (UTC)
This one's doesn't have a simple consistent test like countability, but oversimplifying, if you can put a noun after it for a given meaning in a simple sentence (e.g., I used the computer), it's transitive, and if you can use it without a noun following, it's intransitive (e.g., I slept). If you can alternate without changing the meaning (e.g., I ate (a sandwich) earlier), then it's both.--Brett (talk) 14:02, 24 March 2011 (UTC)
Oh, I see, thanks. Will contribute these changes from now on. Thanks! Hydriz (talk) 14:03, 24 March 2011 (UTC)



I've just closed your RfA and gave you the mop. Be careful and don't delete our main page! ;-) -Barras talk 12:01, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

Bot in Ko Wiktionary[change]

Thanks for your co-operation, but it's recommendable for you to make a bot request, if your bot will run regularly.

Yes check.svgY Done. See that page. Thanks for the notice! --Hydriz (talk) 11:18, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
Hello, after having the bot flag you can run your bot; there is flood on the recent changes. Thanks --아흔 (talk) 23:14, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

New entries[change]

Hi there! Please don't use such complex syntax in articles as seen here. Such rather complex stuff scares possible willing people away. It's better to keep the syntax as simple as possible. Best, -Barras talk 22:01, 16 August 2012 (UTC)


How does one get Twinkle in this establishment? Do we have it? I'm asking because it looked like you used it earlier today Purplebackpack89 (talk) 22:27, 29 October 2012 (UTC)

Hmm, I don't think I used Twinkle here recently (or are you trying to address to someone else on another wiki?). Besides, Twinkle is broken on the Simple English Wiktionary after MediaWiki 1.20 (months ago), though I am currently working on updating the current files to the latest version so that it will work. --Hydriz (talk) 08:36, 30 October 2012 (UTC)


how am i doing so far? Osiris i left a message also. thnx. --Smahas8272 (talk) 13:22, 1 November 2012 (UTC)


Thanks for the rollback, and the kind words. I am trying to learn how do things properly, so if you see any mistakes please point them out. It really is quite hard and you really have to think, as well as know your stuff like transitives etc. --Peterdownunder (talk) 04:58, 9 November 2012 (UTC)

Sure. I am happy to guide anyone to contributing to this wiki. After all, its a wiki, which is a collaborative environment for everyone. Just edit and submit your definitions, and we are happy to fix those small mistakes you made. You are not far from getting the autopatrolled right anyways. :) --Hydriz (talk) 05:06, 9 November 2012 (UTC)


I think that Special:AbuseFilter/history/6/diff/prev/10 will fix it! πr2 (talk • changes) 03:59, 25 December 2012 (UTC)

Great, thank you! --Hydriz (talk) 04:01, 25 December 2012 (UTC)
Just making sure you're okay with this action: Special:AbuseFilter/history/6/diff/prev/18 (it prevents that type of spam). πr2 (talk • changes) 16:22, 13 January 2013 (UTC)
Sure, I am okay with that change, thanks for helping me with regex! I am seriously bad at them. --Hydriz (talk) 11:19, 15 January 2013 (UTC)
It seems as if the spambots have stopped. You may disable filter 6, but maybe it's better to be prepared for their return (if it ever happens). πr2 (talk • changes) 17:58, 25 February 2013 (UTC)
Never mind. The spambot is back. πr2 (talk • changes) 04:24, 10 March 2013 (UTC)


Thank you for that. (talk) 19:24, 27 December 2012 (UTC)


Barnstar Congratulations: You have been given a Barnstar!

For doing lots of valuable work, keeping the machinery of the Wiktionary running, adding definitions and helping me :) - --Peterdownunder (talk) 03:10, 28 December 2012 (UTC)

Thank you! You are doing well too! --Hydriz (talk) 03:17, 28 December 2012 (UTC)


Hello, is this what you were trying to do?  Hazard-SJ  ✈  03:46, 28 December 2012 (UTC)

Yes haha, didn't notice that. Thanks! --Hydriz (talk) 04:08, 28 December 2012 (UTC)

Spacing out headers[change]

Hello, are you supposed to space out headers? I realised that you have been doing so. In fact, someone once asked me explicitly not to do that. Is there a new rule for spacing? πr2 (talk • changes) 15:46, 28 December 2012 (UTC)

Why should there be a problem with spacing of headers?  Hazard-SJ  ✈  23:57, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
I'm not sure. I find it very confusing. Here is the quote from Razorflame (a great user who is inactive now):
Also, please do not space out the equals signs in the headers like you have been doing. Please make sure that you write headers like so:
===Related words===
Does this still apply? πr2 (talk • changes) 03:27, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
I'd like a good reason for not spacing them.  Hazard-SJ  ✈  03:57, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
Because Razorflame said so? :P πr2 (talk • changes) 04:37, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
Lol, its just a personal habit. It is okay to not space the headers, just that I find it much easier to read for the reader in source mode if there is a spacing before and after the equal signs. It is really up to you. --Hydriz (talk) 07:32, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
Same opinion here. AFAIK, the sapcing has no effect on the rendered page.  Hazard-SJ  ✈  21:35, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
Hi there. There is no real good reason to space the headings because it just leaves extra characters in the entry that aren't needed, plus it doesn't look right when you edit the page. Furthermore, WT:SE should be the way entries are formatted, and the headings there are not spaced. Therefore, they should not be spaced. Razorflame 03:27, 20 July 2013 (UTC)


Barnstar Congratulations: You have been given a Barnstar!

...for keeping Wiktionary:Wanted entries updated!  Hazard-SJ  ✈  04:23, 29 December 2012 (UTC)

Global sysop scope[change]

See m:User_talk:Mathonius#Global_sysop_usage. Also, what do you think about WT:RFD#marijuanas? πr2 (talk • changes) 03:36, 13 January 2013 (UTC)


Hi! I'm Vive la Rosière, a sysop of fr.wiktionary. I'm here because I have the intention to translate in French the user page of your bot on fr.wiktionary : fr:Utilisateur:HydrizBot. But before I need fews informations, if I edit the bot page that's will stop your bot or not ? If no it's perfect I'll translate your bot's user page soon. If yes, I'll copy/paste the translation here and let you put it on the bot page when you'll have time. Thank you for your attention. V!v£ l@ Rosière /Whisper…/ 01:12, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

Hi, thanks for helping me translate the user page! Don't worry, it will not affect the way the bot works, and it would be great if you edited the page directly without having to get me to copy/paste the translated content over. Also, is there a need to translate the user page? The page may be changed in the future, especially when Wikidata is available for Wiktionaries. Cheers! --Hydriz (talk) 01:41, 31 March 2013 (UTC)
Ok thank you ! So I'll do it. No of course they are no obligation :) user page are "free" place we not request absolutely a translation. However I think it's not a bad idea to add a translation of a bot's the user page, cause it's closer to a claim about bot's ownership and who contact in case of problem than a normal user page and some french peoples don't understand english. It's just to help them to apprehend that's not a normal account, but a bot account. Yeah, me too I hope it will take care of some wiktionnaries concept but I have no idea when it will apply to our projects. Don't worry if you'll change it later, I'll re-translate it if it's need, don't worry about that. Regards. V!v£ l@ Rosière /Whisper…/ 03:17, 1 April 2013 (UTC)


I have a reasonable filter that gets rid of a good percentage of this garbage. I can stick it into place or if you have access to Commons, or some of the other major wikis you can see it there. Billinghurst (talk) 02:17, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

Feel free to do so (I did not understand which garbage you referred to anyway haha) --Hydriz (talk) 02:24, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

Lemario in Wikcionario (es.wiktionary)[change]

Hi, Hydriz. I'm a burocrat in Wikcionario and have been concerned about our es:Wikcionario:Lemario, whose statistics have not been updated in a while, being a good motivator for our editors to see our progress. The template ProgesoLemario shows the percentage of "blue" links in the list and sublists. It used to be updated by es:Usuario:ChessBOT, who seems to be absent. Would you be able to update it or point me in the direction of someone who might do this? By the way, thank you so much for taking care of the interwikis there, you do a fabulous job at that. Best regards, --Edgefield (talk) 19:49, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for translating that request posted by one of your community members earlier on my Meta's talk page (I couldn't find anyone that can translate Spanish to English, causing a little delay here). However, I currently do not have the means to run such a bot (mainly because I do not have the relevant script that can update this page and due to resource constraints). You can send an email to pywikipedia-l (mailing list for Pywikipedia users) or wikitech-l (mailing list for technical stuff on Wikimedia) to ask for further help. Cheers! This unsigned comment was added by Hydriz (talk • contribs) .
Thanks. I finally found a Bot in the Spanish Wikipedia to do it. His operator's name is Hprmedina, a very helpful person, like you are. All best, --Edgefield (talk) 18:46, 25 June 2013 (UTC)

Buddies at Web Applications[change]

Hi Hydriz, just wanted to say hi. I'm quite unfamiliar with all the wiki stuff, so I thought I´d pay a visit. Will you still be monitoring your own wiki proposal? I will post the url in the chat room as well. Regards Jacob Jan

Yes, I will keep monitoring that proposal, though I am not going to focus much on it for now. Do come over and learn to edit on a wiki though! :) --Hydriz (talk) 06:54, 3 July 2013 (UTC)


Hi Hydriz! Why has nobody welcomed me? I have made good changes, am I disruptive or what? --Rani Rani (talk) 22:42, 13 July 2013 (UTC)

Thank you so much for the tenderhearted welcome. I made a request for rollback. # Rani Rani


Can you improve it? See Talk:stop. πr2 (talk • changes) 22:30, 16 July 2013 (UTC)


Hello Hydriz! Can you please close Created entries by Raninghai. Because now the discussion is starting going to "how your blocked on Simple Wikipedia" and "you did not learn anything". Thank you! --Rani Rani 22:44, 17 July 2013 (UTC)


Could you take a look at how I formatted some of the entries you've changed over the past 15 minutes? It would be nice if you would use this formatting as this is the way most of the entries on this Wiktionary is formatted. It would be great :) Thanks, Razorflame 03:22, 20 July 2013 (UTC)

Yes, there has been some form of debate in the past regarding this. I can't recall the consensus off-hand right now, but I will switch the formatting over accordingly. Please do note that there are also some other changes since you left (see the Spacing out headers discussion above). --Hydriz (talk) 03:25, 20 July 2013 (UTC)
That change should not have been made because WT:SE is what we should be using as a formatting guide and it has no spaces in the headers. Also, thanks for the help :) Razorflame 03:28, 20 July 2013 (UTC)


Hello Hydriz, your bot HydrizBot just changed the etymology of the word, in the French section, in the French wiktionary. It replaced : ''([[#fr-nom-1|Nom commun 1]])'' by : (nom commun 1) . Are you sure it is the right way for indicating a multi ethymolohy ? See (sorry it is in French) for more information. Thank you, regards - to talk to me, please use --Titruffe (talk) 15:15, 16 August 2013 (UTC)