User talk:PaulBustion87

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I just finished that list. Now I'm going to work from this list, [1].PaulBustion87 (talk) 07:54, 23 June 2015 (UTC)
I'm going to try to master the parts of speech templates.[2]PaulBustion87 (talk) 20:59, 26 June 2015 (UTC)

Adding examples[change]

The next stage in improving your edits is to include useful examples. A good example should be a complete sentence that is easy to understand without specialized background knowledge or a large vocabulary. It should help the reader understand the word's meaning, and the target word should appear in a typical context. Please, look at clearance for an example. You'll note that a number of senses are listed. This will become more important as you add examples. Consult a variety of learner dictionaries to help disambiguate senses. It is best to find suitable examples rather than to concoct them because concocted sentences are often atypical in their use. A good place to find sentences is the Corpus of contemporary American English.

  1. There you should put the target word in the "words" box, surrounded by square brackets, and followed immediately by .[x*], where x is n for nouns, v for verbs, j for adjectives, and r for adverbs. So for clearance, you'd enter [clearance].[n*].
  2. Click on the word "collocates" and another box will appear.
  3. Put a * here, and click the search button. A list of words will appear to the right.
  4. Click on the top word in blue that appears to the right. A list of examples will appear below.
  5. Scan the examples to find a suitable sentence.
  6. It's OK to minimally edit the sentence to shorten it or replace a difficult word with a simpler one, as long as that word is not a key part of the example. Names can also be replaced with pronouns.

This process will take a good deal of time, but will result in significantly more valuable entries. If you're interested in a high edit count, then you can save once for each definition you complete, and once for each example you add. --Brett (talk) 17:55, 29 June 2015 (UTC)

I'm going to try what you suggested. I already have looked up two words there, pedophilia and criminal, but the sentences I saw for criminal all did not look like ones that would help people understand what it means. For pedophilia only one of them looked like it would help people understand the word's meaning, but unfortunately that one was using the unusual/narrow medical definition of the term that limits its meaning to sexual attraction to prepubescent children, rather than the broad/normal definition which dictionaries use of any adult sexual attraction/sexual act against any child, and the medical definition is not appropriate for a dictionary, because the distinction between having sexual attraction to prepubescent children versus having an attraction to or performing a sexual act against any child of any age younger than 18 years is not one anybody makes in real life, at least not in the USA. At least this is the impression I get from searching these two words and glancing over the quote results. I'm going to search other words but I don't see why their results will be any different. PaulBustion87 (talk) 07:16, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
I tried what you suggested for the word Mormon. I did find a sentence that helped give a vague idea of what Mormon meant, a member of a specific church, so I added that to the entry,[3]. Was the sentence I added good?PaulBustion87 (talk) 07:22, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
I also found a good suitable sentence for misdemeanor,[4].PaulBustion87 (talk) 07:26, 30 June 2015 (UTC)

All of these examples were much too long and complicated. Keep them short and simple. And preface them with #:.--Brett (talk) 11:40, 30 June 2015 (UTC) Really. I don't think this sentence is complex, "A one-time bartender at a strip club who managed the dancers, Jennifer Crew admitted to misdemeanor brushes with the law." I agree that that sentence is to long, but it is not complex. If it is, then Simple English is a very simple language, indeed.Also, like I said before, when I searched the words pedophilia and criminal on the site you linked me to all the examples I found were non-helpful in helping a person understand what the word means, so they were fairly useless, well except for one in the pedophilia word, but that example like I said above was using a very non-typical definition for the term, so it was inappropriate for a dictionary. Pedophilia may not be that commonly used a word, I'm not sure if it is, but criminal certainly is, and there was not even one helpful example I could find there, so I'm skeptical that I'm going to find many helpful examples on the site, although I'm glad you linked me to it since its better than nothing. PaulBustion87 (talk) 20:58, 30 June 2015 (UTC)