User talk:Barras/Archive 2

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Site notice

The site notice needs updating. There is a new voting round. --The New Mikemoral (talk) 23:32, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

I emptied the page. A global notice will come around when the foundraiser is done (around 15 Jan). Meta takes care of it. But thanks fr the notice. --Barras talk 10:39, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
Why not keep the updated sitenotice till the global one is changed? Pmlineditor  10:40, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
I got it already... I was already at the global sysop vote... --Barras talk 10:42, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

<-- I think it needs some updating again. Regards, The New Mikemoral ♪♫ 04:01, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

How often u on, here?

--WhiteInKnights (talk) 18:24, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

Even if I do not edit here every day, I'm nearly every day around and look if there is any admin/crat/editor work that needs to be done. --Barras talk 18:33, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

Nice --WhiteInKnights (talk) 18:35, 4 January 2010 (UTC)


Question about the pronunciation. Is it "sihk ihm?" --The New Mikemoral ♪♫ 03:15, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, but I've no clue :( -Barras talk 14:14, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
Well, I asked at the English tea room and I found a pronunciation file. --Mikemoral♪♫ 01:27, 16 February 2010 (UTC)
Great! :) Barras talk 11:01, 16 February 2010 (UTC)


Was there community consensus or anything for that bot? Shouldn't it be flagged with bot bits at least to not flood RC or blocked? --Mikemoral♪♫ 06:02, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

He mailed me to flag this bot and I asked him to make some testedits to show that the bot works. It's now flagged. Best -Barras talk 11:17, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
Ah --Mikemoral♪♫ 03:20, 9 February 2010 (UTC)


Hiya! I've been working with guillom (steward) to block accounts globally, but you may want to join IRC and let them know about these. BTW: It'd really HELP if a few simpleWP could have admin here also so we can act in these types of situations. :) fr33kman t - c 01:29, 14 February 2010 (UTC)


In the last two months, I've made well over 100 edits, not fewer than fifty. --Brett (talk) 15:03, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

Hey Brett. That's not my fault, please blame Pmlineditor for this (this) ;) I'll change it. Barras talk 15:41, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
Sorry! Not paying enough attention.--Brett (talk) 20:17, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
No problem. I've moved you back to active. I hope to see you more around :) Barras talk 20:18, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

a little vs a lot (of)

You can't say "a lot water". You need of. But with a little you can say "a little water". The wording of the definition differs in an attempt to reflect that.--Brett (talk) 16:08, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the info. I'll remember this next time :) Barras talk 16:25, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

Exemplifying vs using

Examples like the following use the word, but they don't exemplify it.

  • This man is a marine.
  • There are people with many good abilities.

In other words, there's nothing characteristics about the word in question in the rest of the sentence. In the first one, marine could be anything from boxer to refugee to sculpture. Similarly, in the second abilities could be friends, memories or genes. To improve this, consider the words that go together. To get a better idea, check out the Corpus of Current American English website. As you see, ability goes with limited. skill, affect, demonstrate, and improve. Click on those, and you'll get lots of examples that you can build on. Then you get a better sentence that actually exemplifies the meaning and grammar of ability:

  • This class will improve your ability to speak Spanish.

--Brett (talk) 00:04, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

Thanks Brett. I'll do my best to improve my ability of writing examples! Barras talk 17:36, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

Defining style with prepositions

It would be nice to use sentences with the prepositions, but they are difficult to form. The one for aboard didn't work, and generally using the verb means doesn't help show the grammar of the word because the word is then only mentioned in the sentence, not used (see here).--Brett (talk) 02:43, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, it's mostly not completely easy to create grammatically correct sentences. I'm happy that you've a look at the changes and I appreciate this. It's the best way to improve my English. Barras talk 17:36, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

Math Topics

I responded to a message about adding math topics to SW. I cannot find it. Can you give me the link? (Thanks in advance) Teacher Jeff (Talk) 22:34, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

Do you mean this? Barras talk 13:14, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
Thanks!! Teacher Jeff (Talk) 10:12, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

Prepositions (leftwards)

Hi, Barras

The general style for writing definitions is to use the word in an explanation. The idea is that this gives some clearer idea to people about how the word is used. Thus,Your palm is the front of your hand shows that palm, being a body part, usually is preceded by a possessive noun or pronoun. In contrast, when we use the verb means (e.g., Leftwards means...), we are mentioning the word rather than using it (see here). This adds no information. For that reason, most prepositions and many adverbs have been written in a somewhat different style. We should probably leave them alone so that there isn't a mixture of styles. On the other hand, if you can find a way to USE the preposition in an explanation, that would be great.--Brett (talk) 17:52, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

Hi Brett! Thanks for the advice. I'll revert my edit there for now and leave it as it is. Best, -Barras talk 08:01, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

Wiktionary:Requests for adminship/Archive 1 and Archive 2

Please move Wiktionary:Requests for adminship/Archive 1 and 2 to Requests for permissions/Archive 1 and Archive 2 please. Please also delete the current Requests for permissions page and move the Requests for adminship page to the request for permissions page.

Thanks, Razorflame 23:03, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

Seems to be done by Tempo. -Barras talk 05:22, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
Can you delete the redirects created by the move please? Razorflame 18:19, 12 July 2010 (UTC)


RP templates should be changed to UK as per the way that we have done things since a year ago. Please remember to do this in the future. Thanks, Razorflame 18:09, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

Maybe it would be easier to leave it as a redirect to the UK template... redirects are cheap. -Barras talk 21:29, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
No, it shouldn't be used as it would be more confusing than just UK, which is the reason for the UK template. Razorflame 21:55, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
And if on our Wiki we normally use UK instead of RP, it may be easier to redirect. Newcomers from enwiktionary for example would have it easier. -Barras talk 09:04, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
We shouldn't be using the RP template, though (even a redirect) because a) it isn't unified (for example, some pages will use (UK) while some use (UK), and this creates disunity, which isn't very useful in a dictionary. A dictionary needs to be as uniform as possible :) and b) UK is simpler than RP. Hope this helps to explain it further :) Razorflame 01:20, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
It doesn't matter if you put in (UK) or (UK) since both show up as the same and also point to the same page. It makes it easier for newcomers, especially from other Wiktionaries. The reader doesn't really care if there is the {{UK}} or {{RP}}. If someone gets confused, s/he can ask. If we grow up and once decide to us not only UK, but also RP, it will be much easier to fix it then. However, if you really feel that we should delete this template, then please propose it for deletion and let's see what our (small) community thinks. -Barras talk 09:38, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
Ok, I see your point there :) Razorflame 11:13, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
As I said, feel free to propose it for deletion. If other people think as well that this should be deleted, I won't make any problems and delete it., thought I think it is useful :) -Barras talk 17:36, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

Patrolling pages

When you patrol a page, can you please remember to check the English Wiktionary for any additional parts of speech, any pronunciations on the English Wiktionary, as well as any related words, synonyms, or antonyms? It would be very helpful :) Thanks, Razorflame 01:18, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

Well, just use the patrol tool only to ensure that there's no vandalism. But I will try to remember and take more care of such things. -Barras talk 09:39, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
It really isn't that hard. All you have to do is just look up the page on the English Wiktionary, and if it has pronunciation, add it. That's all. :) Cheers, Razorflame 11:12, 17 July 2010 (UTC)


Spit is also a verb. I'll see what I can do to fix our entry for it :) Razorflame 20:31, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

UPDATE: I've fixed up this entry of yours :) Cheers, Razorflame 22:19, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

Protection please

Can you please protect User:Razorflame/Entries/Archive 1-500 please? I'd like it indefinitely semi-protected and semi-move protected. Thanks, Razorflame 22:19, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

Yes check.svgY Done -Barras (talk) 22:21, 30 July 2010 (UTC)


Could you rename my account User:Yotcmdr to Yottie? Thanks, Yottie (talk) 11:42, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

Since I was the renaming 'crat on Wikipedia and know that both accounts belong to you (was proven last year when renamed), the conforming edit was not needed. Yes check.svgY Done -Barras (talk) 11:46, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
Thanks :) Yottie (talk) 11:51, 3 August 2010 (UTC)


Hi. US only, if I'm not mistaken. In UK we'd say, I was stung by a wasp yesterday. Cheers -- Algrif (talk) 12:38, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

I saw this on en... but I wasn't really sure how to format this correctly... I'll take a look this weekend, I'm just a bit busy atm. -Barras (talk) 08:56, 17 August 2010 (UTC)


Hi Barras. Thanks for being so patient. After three weeks, I finally had a chance to think about it and made one edit to finish the project I had started so long ago. Please test it out and if you're happy with it, please remove the admin flag from my account as I am done. Regards, EhJJTALK 01:54, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for helping out here!! -Barras (talk) 07:18, 6 October 2010 (UTC)


He wants his stuff back. TeleComNasSprVen (talk) 03:21, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

Hi. Re the above, I was trying to avoid the redlink "RIRs" at the bottom of Special:Contributions/ etc. by creating mainspace page Regional Internet registry. In the alternative, please unlink "RIRs" on pages MediaWiki:Anontalkpagetext and MediaWiki:Sp-contributions-footer-anon or link it to something more appropriate. Thank you.   — Jeff G. ツ 05:00, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

Perhaps a link to w:Regional Internet registry would be more appropriate, like the enwikt version. TeleComNasSprVen (talk) 05:19, 15 October 2010 (UTC)
Unlinked. The Wikipedia article isn't really helpful either. -Barras (talk) 05:48, 15 October 2010 (UTC)
The English Wikipedia article has much more info than the Simple English Wikipedia article, but it is less simple. I frankly forgot what was in article Regional Internet registry here, so access to its contents and edit summaries would help me to better explain what I did and why.   — Jeff G. ツ 01:55, 16 October 2010 (UTC)
User:Jeff G./Regional Internet registry. -Barras (talk) 07:01, 16 October 2010 (UTC)
Thanks! It was a softredirect to en:w:Regional Internet registry (the English Wikipedia article). What about that article is not helpful to you? Thanks again!   — Jeff G. ツ 07:14, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
Softredirects in main space to other Wikipedias are rather unhelpful. If someone types something here in Wiktionary into the search, they want a definition not a Wikipedia entry or a link to it. -Barras (talk) 08:57, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
Putting aside the issue of softredirects in mainspace, would you consider linking "RIRs" to en:w:Regional Internet registry or its URL ? Thanks!   — Jeff G. ツ 14:37, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
Not really something I really like, because the article might be not easy to understand. However, I've done it. Once the simpleWP article is better, we will change the link. -Barras (talk) 15:48, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

IP block exemption

Hi, can you give me IP block exemption like on Simple English Wikipedia? Thanks! Hydriz (talk) 04:55, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

Yes check.svgY Done -Barras (talk) 09:24, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

Rename request

Hi Barras, please rename me to El Muñeco Shakes It Up, Baby, as you have done on the other wikis! Thanks! Diego Grez let's talk 21:27, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

And again.... Yes check.svgY Done -Barras (talk) 21:30, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

Audio requests

  • Audio Yes check.svgY Done again, rather late. Mikemoral♪♫ 01:44, 28 December 2010 (UTC)
  • Thanks a lot! -Barras (talk) 11:44, 28 December 2010 (UTC)